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Art direction misdirection?
Rog posted in Warhammer Online
Dear Mythic,
I would very much like to play a Warhammer Dwarf:

However, these things look like they belong in some other games, but not yours:

=(
Please fix this before you release your game. kthx.
(4:20 pm)


Jul 22, 2008 12:35am
The Warhammer Dwarfs *looked* so fucking cool.... i remember you wishing the WoW dwarfs looked like Warhammers.....
if you compare WoW to WAR, i think WoW dwarfs win sadly.
I would like to see them FIX dwarfs too. =/
Jul 22, 2008 7:20am
There's the other part of this which are the WAR dwarf classes, considering how popular Slayers are in Warhammer:
Ironbreaker (Tank), Runepriest (Heal / Support / Buffbot), Engineer (Ranged).
The lack of melee DPS is such a big oversight, they really need some sort of berserker class. I know, I know, the lore explanation against suicidal dwarves being a short career choice, but I think that's just bullshit, all characters die and get resurrected in these games.
There's not much coolness factor at all to any of the Order races. Somehow I think Mythic convinced themselves that players who play the 'pretty' races in WoW will pick those races here, except they didn't make them pretty at all, they just look dorky. Their Dwarves look dorky, their High Elves look dorky and oh god why'd they pick Empire instead of Bretonnia? Men in tights, that's just a great choice. =P
Half the populace of WAR is going to pick Chaos, it's the race that looks coolest by far. The rest will mostly choose the other Destruction races.
Jul 22, 2008 11:21am
Well, in all fairness you picked a couple dorky dwarf pictures to illustrate your point. :P
As for WoW dwarves looking better than WAR Dwarfs? Not even remotely close.
The Slayer discussion is goes back to the day that Mythic revealed all the dwarf classes. I think it was something with Games Workshop (you know, the guys who dictate what they can and can not do) that lead them to the Hammerer for the melee DPS choice. In the end, you know the story, the dps class was removed.
Jul 22, 2008 4:01pm
What other dwarf pictures are there? I tried to grab the most recent shots from Mythic's site to avoid being accused of picking old material. AFAIK this is their current art direction. I'd honestly like to see these mysterious recently cool dwarves that I skipped by.
Digging through their screenshots, this is a little better:
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/screenshots/WAR_ss_08...
But still, compare it to WAR's own concept art: http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/conceptart/NPC_Gotrek...
Warhammer dwarves tend to be stylistically stunted in the chest-to-belly area, plus have big muscular arms and larger heads. The WAR dwarves are more proportional to realism.
And why so much Slayer in WAR's artwork, even the main trailer? I know you can't answer these, but they're just prepping players for a letdown on the dwarves.
I totally understand cuts when something doesn't work, but regardless, they're now left with a void for the dwarves. Either that or the Ironbreaker turns out to be a lot more exciting than a typical tank (which I doubt).
Honestly, would you play a Dwarf in WAR?
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